Sunday, September 23, 2007

Benefiting from Busch

Last night's Busch race did not end exactly like AJ would have wanted it to. With 30 laps to go, and running in the 6th position, AJ's right front tire went down. He ran a very solid race up until that point, racing with fellow Cup drivers in the top-10 for most of the day. NASCAR said the No. 42 “intentionally caused a caution," and AJ was penalized a lap. The Ganassi team and race announcers clearly did not agree with this call, but when NASCAR makes a decision, you just have to go with it. AJ rejoined the field in 22nd. He was able to pick up one position before the checkered flag fell and ended the day in 21st.

As disappointed as he was about not finishing in the top-5 last night, AJ has definitely been reaping the benefits of the seat time in the No. 42 Ganassi Busch car. And it has never been more evident than on Friday.

At the beginning of 1st Cup practice the No. 84 car's engine blew on the first lap - on Turn 1 to be exact! He wasn't even able to finish one lap so no time was recorded for the No. 84. By the time Qualifying rolled around in the afternoon, the No. 84 car had the No. 83's set up, and the team hoped for the best. Not only did he make the field, but qualified 11th - his best starting position of the season so far. AJ told the media that he was going for the "biggest pickup from practice." Which he definitely accomplished since he never actually practiced! But he also admitted laps he turned in the three Busch practices earlier in the day did nothing but help his cause.

You can see both Red Bull cars take on the Monster Mile at 1:30 pm today on ABC.


Anonymous Curt FTW said...

AJ owns all. Best of luck in the Cup race, homie. Boy got skills. I'm definitely gonna keep my eye on AJ when the green flag waves.

9:17 AM  
Blogger Becca said...

Good luck today Brian and AJ!

9:35 AM  
Blogger Kristin said...

Good luck today Team Red Bull. We are all cheering for you guys! It's great to see 2 cars on the track, hopefully this will continue to be a trend for the remainder of the season.


9:38 AM  
Anonymous Nick said...

How you intentionally cause a caution when you blow a tire, I'll never know.

Good luck TRB!

10:35 AM  
Blogger Kristin said...

MRN - Allmendinger on pit road - under hood - hope electrical, may
motor - already changed one

10:51 AM  
Anonymous Nathan said...

#70 and #21 having problems...if they can keep that #83 car clean, we could make up a lot of points.

11:02 AM  
Blogger Katie said...

AJ only got in 5 laps in the race today.. obviously, ABC has ignored him leving the race.. so I guess you guys can fill in the details on why later.

and for the record, NASCARs favorite hobby is making stupid calls to screw drivers over.. not sure why that is.. whatever.

11:29 AM  
Anonymous Nathan said...

I wish they could get Vickers up there...Kyle Petty is having problems today too. If he can just get a top 15, he'll make up 100 points on everyone he's chasing. That'd only put him 120-150 back from 35th place in points. This is exciting!

11:34 AM  
Anonymous Nathan said...

Scott Riggs' pit crew sucks...I feel sorry for him. He keeps losing 4-5 spots every stop.

By the way, has anyone ever seen a tire come off like that on pit road before? That was weird.

11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Brian has some damage from getting into the back of the 41 on the first pit stop.

11:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doug said everything was good. Brian just said the car was getting better all he needs now is a long run.

11:51 AM  
Blogger Kristin said...

Thank you for the update. I'm not listening to Brian this week, so I didn't know.

11:54 AM  
Anonymous Nathan said... lap down. We can make it up, but I hate it when we have to come from behind.

At least Riggs is finally a lap down too.

12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same thing that happened to AJ today that happened on Friday from listening to the scanner. He did have a great run yesterday though. I dont understand the call from the officials either, wouldnt be the first time we cant figure out nascars decisions.

2:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awesome job #83 avoiding the crash!!!! I can’t believe Brian missed all that crap!

2:38 PM  
Blogger Brian said...

Wow awesome job Vickers! That is going to atleast move him up 5 spots!

2:40 PM  
Blogger Brian said...

Why is someone working on the 12 car under red flag?

2:43 PM  
Blogger Brian said...

Awesome job 83 team way to finish 16th and pick up some big points!

3:03 PM  
Anonymous savannah david said...

Crunch!!! Watch it Brian. Bam... Boom... Watch out BV. OK. Clear. 16th!!! What a great way to stick it out and have a great finish BV. Better luck in Kansas AJ. Go get 'em boys.

3:08 PM  
Anonymous Curt said...

great job avoiding that massive wreck, BV! 16th! He passed Scott Riggs in driver's points so I'm hoping that he passed him in owner points too.

But I gotta say we got lucky today. Performance wasn't there much. Does anyone know how close BV is to 35th?

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Nathan said...

Big points day. I can't remember how many points Blaney gets for attempting the race (I think 28 points). Based on that, here's what I've got after this race. The #70 is in 33rd with 2191 points, the #45 is 34th with 2108 points, the #21 is 35th with 2107 points, the #22 is 36th with 2011 points, the #10 is 37th with 1871 points, and the #83 is 38th with 1860 points. The #83 is 11 points behind 37th place, 151 points behind 36th place, 247 points behind 35th place, and 248 points behind 34th place. Big day, congrats to the #83 team. Good job to keep fighting.

3:14 PM  
Blogger Krystle said...

It was amazing that BV was able to avoid that massive crash. I about had a heartattack! I'm very happy that next week they will be in the old cars. I need a break from the COTs.

3:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are wrong on the points...BV is in 36th at 1649 points with Nemechek in the 35th spot at 1800

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Nathan said...


I'm talking about owners points, I think you're talking about drivers points.

3:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blaney didn't qualify so he doesn't get any points.

3:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Owners get points for attemps.

3:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Owners get points just for attempting to qualify the car.

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Curt said...

Thanks Nathan. Man we really need a Owner Points 101. Would be cool if the TRB Blogger could post an explanation some day. =)

3:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they may have been working on the 12 to get it loaded on the hauler. ryan didn't sound like they were planning on going back out that late in the race. the car was pretty beat up and sometimes the cars won't fit back on the haulers if they are bent badly out of shape.
just a thought.

3:43 PM  
Blogger Kristin said...

Nathan, Have I told you how much I love you? LOL! Thank you so much for doing this for us week in and week out. You rock! With the way Blanney has been doing lately, it could work.

3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Car Owner points 101 for the TRB bloggers to enjoy>>

Both car owner and driver points are awarded based on the same declining scale. The winner and his car owner each get 185 points plus five bonus points for leading a lap and five more bonus points for whoever lead the most laps.

Just like the drivers, car owners also see their points manually set to 5,000 with ten races remaining if they are in the top twelve plus ten bonus points for each victory.

Earning Points But Not Racing:
One important difference between car owner points and driver points is that the driver does not earn any points if he does not qualify for the race. Car owners earn points for each race that they attempt to make even if they fail to qualify.

This explains why Michael Waltrip has fewer driver points than his wife Buffy has owner points. Although Michael has not made every race in 2007 he has attempted to qualify every week.

How Each Are Used:
The most important difference is how each of the point systems are used.

The driver points are used to determine the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup champion. This is what most people are talking about when they think if NASCAR points.

The car owner points are used in qualifying. Car owner points determine which drivers are locked into a guaranteed qualifying spot. They are also used to assign provisional starting spots. Finally, car owner points are used to set the starting lineup in case qualifying has to be canceled.

4:18 PM  
Anonymous Nathan said...

Here are the numbers, for owner's points, if people are interested. The fastest who fails to qualify gets 31 points, then it goes in order: 28,25,22,19,16,13,10,7,4,1 - all remaining car owners get 1 point for the attempt.

Jayski is reporting 2002 owners points for the 22 car. I'm not sure how they are getting that number, but I'll have to wait until NASCAR releases their numbers on Monday.

4:36 PM  
Blogger Brad said...

2,002 is correct for the #22 car. This is directly from NASCAR's Unofficial Owner's Standings following today's race.

4:44 PM  
Anonymous 83GIVZUWINGZ said...

Yeah...2002 for Blaney...putting BV just 142 back from him...I was hoping the 21 wouldn't climb that much! It would have been a BEAUTIFUL gain...but I'll take 30 points in pure gain on 35th! :) Thanks for the calculations Nathan...I usually just wait for's easier! LOL

Let's go dominate Kansas boyz!!!


6:34 PM  
Blogger ncsuredbull said...

"Points are also given to the owner of a car. For a car that makes the field, the owner points are the same as the driver points for that race. Cars that fail to qualify for a race gain owner points based on how well they qualified, continuing the 3 points per position so that the 44th car in qualifying gets 31 points, the 45th gets 28 points, and so forth, to a minimum of one point below 54th."

"This explains why Michael Waltrip has fewer driver points than his wife Buffy has owner points. Although Michael has not made every race in 2007 he has attempted to qualify every week. "

Remember that Terry Labonte raced the Brickyard and both road courses for the 55 team.

7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question, I understand the difference in the points but have never been able to locate the owner points on the nascar site, only the driver points. Can anyone tell me exactly where they are on Nascar. I have found them before on Jayski.

5:46 AM  
Anonymous Nathan said...

You can get to NASCAR's page for owner's points by going to this link:

NASCAR Owner's Points
However, they don't update this page until results are Official, generally around Monday at noon or so.

5:53 AM  
Blogger Krystle said...

Another website to get the owner's points is There is also qualifying quotes, post-race quotes, some practice quotes, and other interesting information.

9:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Nathan

10:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch Vickers on Inside NEXTEL Cup on Speed Monday, September 24th at 8:00 pm.

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Amzy said...

Here are the offical owners points as of dover:
35 -- #21 Glen Wood 2107
36 -- #22 Bill Davis 2002 (-105)
37 -- #10 James Rocco 1871 (-236)
38 -- #83 Dietrich Mateschitz 1860 (-247)

3:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also they have been addressing the Toyota/Chevy issue and TRB is sticking with Toyota!!!

5:48 PM  

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